Review: Ryzen 9 9950X processor - A Game-Changing Beast?
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mrrulez911
Nice review! And what a performance, my gosh!' 😎
Undying
Some strange results overall between many reviews. AMD not improving gaming performance on Zen5 is disappointing.
Lets hope Zen5X3D will change that.
wavetrex
What a mess...
An absolute flop.
The same will go for X3D variants, they won't be any better than Zen4 X3D, heck, they might even be worse.
All the transistors went to AVX512, and the rest of the CPU is stagnant.
Two years wait for this...
BOOOO.
Valken
Was there a tuned test? PBO, CO, all the works? Pretty sure most Gurus will run it that way and not bone stock.
Undying
From what i've seen PBO does nothing for gaming performance or only slight increase.
H83
Like the 9700X, this is also a small improvement over it`s predecessor, this 9000 series won`t bring big performance increases like we wanted.
But the performance is there, for those who who need it.
Great review.
Krizby
Oh boy I can make meme all day regarding Ryzen 9000 😀
Horus-Anhur
That's because this CPU was not made for us. It was made only, for the enterprise sector.
Look at the Phoronix. It's mostly a server, AI and workstation review. And the gains are quite big, for a CPU generation.
wavetrex
Indeed. 100% skip generation for anyone not working from home.
Undying
Yeah i kinda realized that but X3D CPUs are made for us so maybe AMD will improve up on it and make 9800X3D actually worthy of an upgrade.
wavetrex
Hope dies last.
I'm willing to bet the gaming performance of 9800X3D will be within 5% of 7800X3D, aka, Intel quad-core type of "upgrade". Completely pointless.
Undying
Well to be honest 7800X3D crushes my 7700X in gaming so all in all it could be worth it either way 😀
Dont underestimate the v-cache as we seen both 5800X3D and 7800X3D are gaming monsters.
Horus-Anhur
Maybe. But Zen5 has a wider backend, so the cache might have a greater effect on Zen5 performance, than on Zen4.
Or maybe not. We'll have to wait for reviews.
WhiteLightning
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Why wouldn't the X3d be faster with games ? just compare it with the 7950x for now.
WhiteLightning
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Please guys do not post links to other sites reviews , on the forum its fine, but this is the front page remember.
barbacot
For me it's a winner because of stability and memory compatibility - it also runs memory at higher speed than first gen. Gaming? - i don't care, I have a 4090.:p
So yes, I want him, I need him.
Undying
I didnt know you have to reinstall OS when upgrading from single CCD to dual CCD chip to have max performance. Thats strange.
TheDeeGee
Not to mention needing Xbox Game Bar.
wavetrex
I "compared" a future potential 9800X3D to the existing 7800X3D, not to the standard parts.
I said that I'm not expecting the future 9800X3D to be more than 5% faster than the 7800X3D.
Meaning, you could get a 7800X3D RIGHT NOW instead of waiting, and you'll be totally fine. There's literally zero reason (other than hopium) to wait for a 9800X3D
Carfax
Arrow Lake is the last hope for x86-64 desktop, since Zen 5 is more or less a flop. This is where having greater market segmentation between product lineup would have helped AMD. They are obviously prioritizing the development of their CPUs for commercial/HPC, because that's where the money is. Having dual issue AVX-512 is nice, but completely useless for desktop. If they beefed up AVX2 throughput instead, it would have been better in some workloads.
Until they address the main problems, ie weak memory controller (may be caused by IF), slow infinity fabric interconnect, and outdated cache hierarchy in the base models, Zen is a hard pass for me.
